Operator  

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to NTPC Limited Q3 FY '25 Earnings Conference Call hosted by IIFL Capital Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Apoorva Bahadur from IIFL Capital Limited. Thank you, and over to you.

Apoorva Bahadur   IIFL Research

Thank you, Yashashree. Good evening, everyone. Thank you for your patience. On the call from NTPC, we have Shri Jaikumar Srinivasan, Director Finance; Shri Shivam Srivastava, Director Fuel; Shri K. Shanmugha Sundaram, Director Projects; Shri Ravindra Kumar, Director Operations; and Shri Anil Kumar Jadli, Director of Human Resources. Over to the management team.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Thank you. A very good evening to all the participants. I, Jaikumar Srinivasan, Director Finance of NTPC and NGEL welcome all of you to the Q3 FY '25 Conference Call of NTPC Limited. I have with me Shri Shivam Srivastava, Director of Fuel; Shri K. Shanmugha Sundaram, Director Project of NTPC and NGEL; Shri Ravindra Kumar, Director Operations of NTPC; and Shri Anil Kumar Jadli, Director Human Resources, NTPC. I also have with me other key members of the NTPC Group.

Today, the company has announced the unaudited financial results for the quarter and 9 months ended 31 December 2024. The key performance highlights for the aforementioned periods have already been disclosed on both the stock exchanges.

NTPC Group has completed yet another outstanding quarter showcasing robust operational and financial performance. The successful listing of the NTPC Green Energy Limited, NGEL, during the quarter marked a significant milestone in NTPC's journey towards sustainable energy leadership.

With it's successful listing on 27 November 2024, NGEL has positioned itself as a key player in the Indian renewable energy sector.

This strategic move highlights NTPC's commitment to accelerating the Nation's energy transition and its leadership in clean energy initiatives.

Coming to the operational highlights for third quarter and 9 months financial year '25. During 9 months FY '25, NTPC Group added 640-megawatt commercial capacity -- commercial RE capacity to its portfolio. As on 31 December 2024, the commercial capacity of NTPC stands at 59,168-megawatt on a stand-alone basis and 76,598 megawatts for the group. In the current quarter, we have added 135-megawatt RE capacity and 660-megawatt coal capacity of our subsidiary, THDC India Limited is being declared commercial from tomorrow.

I repeat 660 megawatts coal capacity of our subsidiary THDC , is being secured commercial from tomorrow.

NTPC Group generated 327 billion units in 9 months FY '25 as compared to 315 billion units in 9 months FY '24, registering a growth of 4%. NTPC's stand-alone gross generation in 9 months FY '25 also grew by 4% to 278 billion units from 268 billion units in the corresponding previous period.

During 9 months FY '25, PLF of coal stations of NTPC was 76.20%, as against 67.20% PLF of coal stations of Rest of India. Rihand Station with a PLF of 89.42% is the seventh ranked station and Singrauli Station with a PLF of 88.59% is eighth rank station in the All India PLF Ranking during the 9-month period ended 31 December 2024.

Overall, 7 NTPC stations are ranked among the top 15 stations.

As regards the status of fuel supply, coal supply during 9 months FY '25 was 185.15 million metric tonnes, including 2.26 million metric tonne of imported coal. The coal supply during the corresponding previous period was 175.84 million metric tonnes including 5.88 MMT of imported coal. NTPC has registered highest ever coal production of 30.88 MMT in 9 months FY '25 with growth of 23% as against 25.12 MMT in the 9 months FY '24.

Cumulative expenditure of INR 11,841 crores has been incurred on the development of coal mines till 31st December 2024.

Coming to the financial performance. For NTPC, on a stand-alone basis, total income for Q3 FY '25 is INR 42,303 crores as against INR 40,288 crores in the corresponding quarter of previous year, registering a growth of 5%. For 9 months FY '25, the total income increased by 6% to INR 1,28,601 crores from INR 1,21,486 crores in the corresponding previous period.

NTPC's Profit after tax for Q3 FY '25 is INR 4,711 crores as against INR 4,572 crores in the corresponding quarter of previous year, registering an increase of 3%. On 9 monthly basis, profit after tax is INR 13,871 crores as against INR 12,523 crores in 9 months FY '24, registering an increase of 11%.

Total income of the group for 9 months FY '25 is INR 1,39,777 crores as against INR 1,32,349 crores in the corresponding previous period, an increase of 6%. PAT of the group for 9 months financial '25 is INR 16,056 crores as against the corresponding previous period PAT of INR 14,842 crores, registering an increase of 8%. We expect to maintain similar growth on a full year basis also.

During 9 months FY '25, our subsidiaries earned profit of INR 1,908 crores as compared to INR 1,516 crores in the corresponding period of previous year, registering an increase of 26%. NTPC's share of profit in JVs has increased from INR 1,425 crores -- INR 1,424 crores in FY '24 to INR 1,581 crores in 9 months FY '25 registering an increase of 11%.

During 9 months FY '25, we have accounted for dividend income of INR 1,309 crores from our subsidiaries and joint venture companies as against INR 653 crores during 9 months FY '24.

Stand-alone regulated equity for conventional power and mining business as on 31st December 2024 is INR 90,289 crores, which was INR 84,498 crores in the previous year, registering a growth of 7%.

On a consolidated basis, regulated equity as on 31st December 2024 is INR 1,05,854 crores, which is 5% over the last year's figure of like INR 1,01,116 crores.

The Board has declared the second interim dividend of INR 2.5 per share for the financial year 2024-'25. First interim dividend of INR 2.5 per share was paid in November 2024. The average interest rate on borrowings for the company during 9 months FY '25 was 6.64% as compared to 6.66% in 9 months FY '24.

In the 9 months FY '25, we have incurred a group CapEx of INR 31,133 crores as compared to INR 21,642 crores in the corresponding previous period, while on a stand-alone basis NTPC has incurred a CapEx of INR 16,305 crores as compared to INR 11,963 crores in the corresponding previous period.

As part of our overall capacity expansion plans, Investment approval has been accorded for 8 gigawatt thermal capacity during the current fiscal at an aggregate appraised current estimated cost of INR 1 lakh crores.

Total thermal capacity under construction now stands at 17.56 gigawatts. In addition, Hydro and RE capacity in -- in addition, Hydro and RE capacity under construction is 2.2 gigawatt and 10.3 gigawatts, respectively, taking total capacity into construction for NTPC Group to over 30 gigawatts. We are actively considering awarding additional thermal capacity to the tune of 7.2 gigawatts for the financial year '26,'27 and with an ambitious target of 60 gigawatts of renewable energy by 2032, NTPC is poised for significant growth in the coming years.

Furthermore, we have greater fuel security, we are enhancing our coal mining capacity as well. It is planned to enhance NTPC Group coal production from 40 million metric tonne in financial year '25 to an estimate of 67 million metric tonne by FY '29.

To accelerate our growth, NTPC is also positioned to make significant contribution to the energy transition through clean baseload generation technologies, such as nuclear power.

For taking this forward. Anushakti Vidhyut Nigam Limited ASHVINI, a joint venture company of NTPC and Nuclear Power Corporation Limited, has been established or commissioning Pressurized Heavy Water Reactor Nuclear Projects.

We have recently signed a Supplementary Joint Venture agreement with NPCIL for transfer of 2800 megawatts Mahi Banswara Rajasthan Atomic Power Plant Project from NPCIL to ASHVINI.

Further, NTPC Parmanu Urja Nigam Limited has been incorporated on 7 January 2025 as the wholly owned subsidiary of NTPC Limited for undertaking Nuclear Energy Business. We are planning to conduct site studies at many locations. We have already got permission for 4 locations in MP for site studies.

Going Higher on Generation, Lowering GHG intensity, remains our motto for environmental management and drives our efforts to comply with new environmental norms. We have taken significant steps to control SOx and NOx emissions. Over the next 3 years, we plan to commission FGD system for the entire operational capacity, ensuring a substantial reduction in SOx emissions. We have commissioned 16.48 gigawatts and work in FGD packages for a cumulative capacity of 52 gigawatts is under progress.

As part of its ongoing sustainability measures to reduce greenhouse gases, NTPC Stations received 4.29 lakh metric tonne of biomass in 9 months FY '25, a remarkable increase compared to 0.71 lakh metric tonnes during the same period last year. We have signed a joint venture agreement with Rajasthan Rajya Vidyut Utpadan Nigam Limited for Chhabra Thermal Power Plant. RVUNL has 2,320 megawatt plant at Chhabra, and we have mutually agreed to form a 50-50 JV company, which will own and operate the said power plant and also explore opportunities for its capacity expansion.

Now turning to the highlights of NTPC Green Energy Limited. During 9 months FY '25, NGEL has added 550-megawatt commercial RE capacity to its portfolio. As on 31st December 2024, the commercial capacity of NGEL stands at 3,475 megawatts as against 2,761 megawatts as on 31st December 2023. NGEL has added an additional 135-megawatt of renewable capacity in the fourth quarter to date. NGEL generated 4,742 million units in 9 months FY '25 as compared to 4,199 million units in 9 months FY '24, registering a growth of 13%.

During 9 months FY '25, CUF of NGEL stations was 22.99% as against 23.37% in corresponding period of previous year, mainly due to lower GHI and extended monsoon.

NGEL's total income for Q3 FY '25 IS INR 581 crores as against INR 463 crores in the corresponding quarter of the previous year, registering an increase of 25%. For 9 months FY '25, the total income grew by 15% to INR 1,714 crores from INR 1,485 crores in the corresponding previous period.

NTPC's (sic) [ NGEL's ] total EBITDA for Q3 FY '25 risen by 22% to INR 500 crores as against INR 412 crores in the corresponding period of previous year. On 9 months basis, total EBITDA is INR 1,483 crores as against INR 1,337 crores in 9 months FY '24, registering a growth of 11%.

I stand corrected, it is NGEL's total EBITDA for Q3 has risen from 22%. You can correct it.

In 9 months FY '25, NGEL, on a consolidated basis, has incurred capacity of INR 7,261 crores as compared to INR 2,779 crores in the corresponding previous period. Total contracted and awarded capacity has increased by 63% during last one year to 13,921 megawatts as on 31st December 2024 from 8,550 megawatts as on 31st December 2023.

NTPC's Renewable Energy Limited, subsidiary of NGEL, successfully secured 1,000 megawatt in solar power auction by Uttar Pradesh Power Corporation Limited, UPPCL at a tariff of INR 2.56 per kWh. Additionally, NTPC REL won 500 megawatt of solar capacity in a SECI auction, which also includes the installation of 250 megawatts by 1,000 megawatt hours energy storage system at a tariff of INR 3.52 per kilowatt hours. NTPC REL also won 300-megawatt capacity in NHPC auction which also includes the installation of 150 megawatts by 300-megawatt hours energy storage system, at a tariff of INR 3.09 per kWh.

In total, we have won 2,200 megawatts of Tariff-Based Competitive Bidding Bids during the current fiscal.

To take its growth journey forward, NGEL has incorporated several joint ventures during this fiscal.

NTPC Rajasthan Green Energy Limited, the 74-26 JV with Rajasthan Rajya Vidyut Utpadan Nigam Limited aims to develop renewable energy parks and green hydrogen projects in Rajasthan with up to 25 gigawatt capacity.

NTPC UP Green Energy Limited, 51-49 JV with UPRVUNL, focuses on developing renewable energy parks and projects in Uttar Pradesh.

Mahagenco NTPC Green Energy Private Limited, a 50-50 JV with Mahagenco will develop and operate renewable energy parks in Maharashtra.

ONGC NTPC Green Private Limited. 50-50 JV with ONGC Green Limited will explore and develop renewable energy projects, including offshore wind initiatives.

NGEL has signed 2 joint venture agreements: one with Mahatma Phule Renewable Energy and Infrastructure Technology Limited Mahapreit to develop 10 gigawatts of renewable energy parks and another which the new and Renewable Energy Development Corporation of Andhra Pradesh to establish 25 gigawatt of renewable energy capacity, 0.5 million metric tonnes of green hydrogen and 10 gigawatt of pumped storage projects in Andhra Pradesh.

NGEL has signed 2 key MOUs during the quarter, one with the Government of Bihar for investments in renewable energy projects, including solar, battery storage and green hydrogen, with government facilitating necessary approvals. Second, MOU with Chhattisgarh State Power Generation Corporation Limited focuses on developing up to 2,000 megawatt of renewable energy projects, including floating solar.

As regards our green hydrogen initiative, I would like to share that NTPC commissioned the Green Hydrogen Mobility Project at Leh comprising 1.7 megawatt solar plant, Green hydrogen filling station of capacity 80 kg per day and 5 hydrogen intra-city buses. Honorable Prime Minister laid the foundations for the NGEL Green Hydrogen Hub in Andhra Pradesh, marking India's first Green Hydrogen Hub under the National Green Hydrogen Mission. Detailed engineering for enabling infrastructure for Green Hydrogen Hub have started.

NTPC Renewable Energy Limited, NTPC REL, signed an MOU with Kandla Port to set up hydrogen fueling stations and 11 hydrogen buses. NTPC also signed an MOU with GRIDCO and CRUT in Odisha to implement a green hydrogen mobility project. Additionally, NTPC launched a solar-hydrogen microgrid project for the Indian Army in Ladakh, providing 200 kilowatts of power year-round.

Regarding the various awards received by us in the Q3 of FY '25, Aravali Power Company Private Limited, a joint venture of our company, received the first prize at the Fifth National Water Awards 2023 for water management and water conservation. NTPC was conferred the first Runner-Up in 2024 UN Women's initiative, WEP, award in the category community engagement and partnership for its flagship CSR Project, Girl Empowerment Mission.

NTPC was confirmed with CSR Awards in the category Swachh Bharat Sanitation and Hygiene at the 12th National CSR Summit 2024 for Municipal Solid Waste Plant Project at Karsada, Varanasi. NTPC also won five DX 2024 CII Awards for Best Practices in Digital Transformation.

NTPC has been recognized as one of the Progressive Places to Work 2024 in the ET NOW Progressive Places to Work 2024 events.

NTPC received 4 awards in the PSE category at the SHRM HR Excellence Awards for excellence in Developing Emerging Leaders, Benefits and Wellness, Learning and Development and Community Impact.

These were some of the key highlights I wanted to share before we begin the question-and-answer session. Thank you, and over to you.

Operator  

[Operator Instructions] We'll take the first question from the line of Mohit Kumar from ICICI Securities.

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

Congratulations on a superb listing of NTPC Green. My first question is on the, sir, what was the under-recovery in the coal-based power plant in 9 months FY '25?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, as we had shared during our last conference call that we stood at INR 706 crores under-recovery, but now we have improved during the quarter 3, we have improved it by INR 238 crores positive. So at the end of December, we stand at an under-recovery of INR 468 crores. And going ahead in this -- because this is -- third quarter is normally not very -- the best performance is always on the fourth quarter. So accordingly, we hope to improve it further and bring it to the range of INR 250 crores to INR 300 crores.

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

Understood. My second question is on the NTPC green. I just wanted to reconfirm the number. You said a 3.5 gigawatt operational capacity, 14 gigawatt of LOI awarded plus 2.2 gigawatt of LOI. Is that right?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

You are referring to the... Or you're talking about...

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

Basically the entire portfolio.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Correct.

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

So my -- the question is, what is the capacity you expect to commission NTPC Green in Q4 FY '25 and FY '26 and FY '27 based on the current portfolio?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See for your sake of benefit of this time, I'll repeat that I said that during 9 months financial '25, NGEL has added 550-megawatt commercial RE capacity to its portfolio. As on 31st December, the commercial capacity stands at 3,475 megawatts as against 2,761 megawatts as on 31st December 2023, and we have added an additional 135-megawatt renewable capacity in the fourth quarter to date.

Yes. Now, what is your question?

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

My question is what is your capacity you expect to commission in FY '25, FY '26 and FY '27 on the NTPC Green?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Are you talking about NGEL or NTPC Green.

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

NTCP Green.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Okay. So renewable capacity for the current year till date, 21st January, we have added 685 megawatts. And for entire financial year, we expect to touch around 3,088 megawatts.

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

FY '26 and FY '27, similar number?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

That's close to 5 gigawatts and 8 gigawatts tentatively.

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

Understood. Sir, a request from our side, sir, given that NTPC Green is now separately listed, is it possible to share some press release detailing the portfolio of the renewables? It is very helpful.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Current portfolio?

Mohit Kumar   ICICI Securities Limited

No, no. Going forward, I think we request from our side that there should be an update on the RE portfolio by every quarter. That will be very helpful for us.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Okay. Noted.

Operator  

[Operator Instructions] We'll take our next question from the line of Subhadip Mitra from Nuvama.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Sir, if you could please help us with the adjusted PAT number for this quarter for both stand-alone and consolidated?

Unknown Executive  

Yes. See, as far as stand-alone is concerned, for Q3, we have INR 4,618 crores as adjusted PAT as against a reported PAT of INR 4,711 crores. and as far as 9 months is concerned, as against a reported PAT of INR 13,871 crores, adjusted PAT is INR 13,015 crores, so which is -- which would be 14% higher compared to the 9 months last year.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Okay. And the growth for the 3Q would be how much, Y-o-Y?

Unknown Executive  

Sorry.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

The third quarter, INR 4,618 crore number, that's the growth of how much Y-o-Y?

Unknown Executive  

6%. On a stand-alone basis, it is 6%. From the INR 4,618 crores compares favorably to 6% above INR 4,356 crores which was the last year's figure.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Understood. And, sir, similar numbers for the consolidated?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Similar number for consolidated, INR 4,964 crores was the adjusted PAT. And as far as the 9 month is concerned, I would -- I have already given INR 14,796 crore compared to INR 13,437 last year, which is a 10% above the previous year.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

So the consol PAT is for 9 months is 10% Y-o-Y growth. And for the third quarter, the consol adjusted PAT would be a growth of how much?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

It would be close to 1%.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Okay. Okay. So the flattish number in 3Q for consolidated, is there any particular reason that's worth highlighting? Was there a higher base of last year because there was something that came in, in that quarter and there is some lumpiness?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

I think I would urge you to -- we'll get into the reason, but I will urge you to look at the 9-month figure. That should show the overall trend. There could be -- the Q3 is showing 1%, but there will be some particular reason for that. It's not there right before me. Maybe we can share it with you later on.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Understood. Lastly, 2 points from my side. The incentive earnings under the new CERC guidelines, I would assume much of that would come in a chunky form in fourth quarter.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No, no. See, incentive, we have a figure of INR 762 crores and for -- we expect to maintain the same trend. So it should be similar to quarter 3, I should say.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Okay. And in terms of awarding you did mention that the new thermal awards are expected to be about 7.2 gigawatts by FY '27. So are we expecting this to be front-ended that much of this award will be completed over FY '25 and '26? Any time lines on that, on the awarding and the commissioning both please?

Unknown Executive  

See, there is presently NIT, we have floated around 2,400 megawatts and we expect this to be concluded in this quarter, financial '25, I think we should take it to the logical end for 2,400 megawatts and further, 4,800 megawatts is something which would be there in the agenda for FY '26 and '27.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

Just a follow-up. Just a follow-up. The last point is in terms of the commissioning numbers for the thermal piece for, let's say, FY '25, '26 and '27? That's the last one from my side.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, as far as the COD guidance is concerned for financial year '25, on a stand-alone basis, we expect 2,178 megawatt coming from 2 thermal projects and renewable projects. And considering the JV subsidiary, the figure would be 4,798 megawatts, which compares of 3,088 megawatts of renewables, and there would be two projects of THDC, one a 660-megawatt thermal project, one hydro pump storage, and one 800-megawatt of Patratu. So all this move together, the JV subsidiary tallies 4,798 megawatts. For a group level, it would be 6,976 megawatts for the current financial year. So if you want the overall breakup, the thermal total will be 2,780 megawatts, hydro will be 250 megawatts and renewable would be 3,946 megawatts, so total of 6,976 megawatts.

Subhadip Mitra   Nuvama Wealth Management Limited

This is FY '25. This is by March of '25. correct?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Yes. Absolutely, yes.

Operator  

[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of Gaurav from Axis Mutual Fund.

Unknown Analyst  

Sir, you did mention that we are targeting another 3,000 -- close to 3,100 megawatts for the year. in NTPC Green, in terms of addition. I just wanted to check the current commissioning pipeline -- the current commissioning momentum, is it in line with your initial targets? And how much more do we have to scale up in terms of resource mobilization in order to achieve both the current year target as well as the subsequent year target?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, up to Q3, we had achieved a figure of 640 megawatts. And a major portion of that, as things are lined up, it would be in the fourth quarter only. And put together, we are expecting something in the upper side of 3,000 megawatts for the Group as a whole. This should include the capacity addition in NREL, NGEL and NTPC and some other inorganic growth also.

Unknown Analyst  

Okay. Understood that. Sir, second question...

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

And for the 5 gigawatt and the 8 gigawatt, which we have mentioned, there's a complete visibility about this capacity addition.

Unknown Analyst  

Understood, sir. Just one more follow-up. So you did mention that we have won a few new projects as well in terms of solar plus battery kind of tenders. What kind of IRRs are we targeting in those equity IRRs are we targeting in those 2,3 projects that we won?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Look, you have to repeat your question. Your voice is not very clear.

Unknown Analyst  

Can you year me now.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Yes.

Unknown Analyst  

Yes. So I was just asking we said that we won new solar plus battery kind of tenders, what kind of equity IRRs are we targeting in those projects?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

It would be in the range of 12%, 12.5%.

Operator  

We'll take our next question from the line of Puneet from HSBC.

Puneet Gulati   HSBC Global Investment Research

My first question is the first 9 month of capacity addition seems to be a bit slow on the NTPC Green side. Is there any particular reason for that? And what is the confidence level for the fourth quarter commissioning? Where are the big hurdles we are seeing?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No. I think capacity addition is something -- it depends on the nature of the -- nature of the site this thing. It is incidentally lined up in a way that the chunk of the capacity addition is coming in the fourth quarter. It can't be as per my desire that it should be completely equated. So, it so happens in some year, some years, there could be a spillover and you can see a greater capacity addition in the first and second quarter. But largely speaking, as these set of projects which are on hand, they are destined to or planned to be commissioned in the fourth quarter.

Puneet Gulati   HSBC Global Investment Research

Understood. And on the thermal side, if you can also give some guidance for FY '26 and '27 for NTPC stand-alone and the JV separately, if possible?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Yes. As far as FY '25, I had elaborated it with the earlier participant. But for financial year '26, we expect -- I'll begin with the total figures. The total figure we have is of 7,771 megawatts, comprising of 1,460 megawatt of thermal projects, hydro 750 megawatt, and renewable of 5,561 megawatts. And if you dissect that between stand-alone and JV subsidiary, JV subsidiary would constitute a chunk of that, it is 7,569 megawatts, and stand-alone, it will be a 202-megawatt of renewables. Nothing -- no thermal projects is lined up on a stand-alone incidentally in the next financial year. But in the JV, Patratu 2, THDC Khurja unit 2 and THDC hydro PSP 750-megawatt is lined up. Renewables will constitute 5.35 gigawatt as I mentioned to you.

Puneet Gulati   HSBC Global Investment Research

Understood. Very clear. And '27?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

'27 is the figure of -- gross figure of 9,904 gigawatts (sic) [ megawatts ] That would have an element of thermal 1,460 megawatt, hydro 444 megawatts, renewable 8,000 megawatts. And it was split it between JV subsidiary and stand-alone, JV subsidiary will be 9,244-megawatt, while stand-alone is 660 megawatts. That would be the Talcher Unit 1 -- Talcher Stage 3 Unit 1. And there will be, in the JV subsidiary side, Patratu Unit 3, 800 megawatts; THDC's Vishnugad-Pipalkoti, 444, and renewable, as I mentioned to you already, it would be 8 gigawatt, which takes the total to 9,244 JV subsidiaries and the overall tally to 9,904 gigawatts (sic) [ megawatts ].

So, on a whole, for the 3 years, FY '25, '26 and '27, we have a figure of 24,651 megawatt of overall capacity addition in the 3 years, 3 fiscal years, where thermal will constitute 5,700 megawatt, hydro will be 1,444 megawatts, and renewable total would be 17,507 megawatts.

Puneet Gulati   HSBC Global Investment Research

Yes, absolutely. Last one, if I may. You talked about the pipeline of 7.2 gigawatts to be ordered out. All of them are in JVs. Is there a plan to add something at stand-alone level also beyond this?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

That's an exploratory process. See, in the sense that I think we are not -- we don't do this by any design. See, we have to look at the overall capacity addition, the adequacy, the demand, the transition imperatives, all this is mind, and we have to keep it in mind. So -- and our stated policy that we would initially go for a greenfield. So whatever suits -- whatever fits into this philosophy, we'll have a priority, the merit order as per that rather than any other order. So if need arise that there are some potentials in the stand-alone NTPC also, but then we will go -- we'll go as per this and subject to feasibility of course. Every project is not with feasibility. So we have identified this as the most potential. But going ahead, we may change the order also.

Operator  

We'll take our next question from the line of Ketan Jain from Avendus Spark.

Ketan Jain  

Am I audible?

Operator  

Yes.

Ketan Jain  

Sir, my question is on the under-construction renewable capacity. As you said, it was around 10 gigawatts. Sir, how much of this capacity would we have land and transmission tied up?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

There's a lot of noise over there in the background. Yes, please repeat your question.

Operator  

Ketan, you are not audible.

Ketan Jain  

Hello. Am I clear now?

Operator  

Yes.

Ketan Jain  

Sir, how much of the under-construction renewable capacity will we have the land and transmission tied up?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, as far as evidently, FY '25 is there and FY '26, what we have targeted of 5 gigawatts, we have all the resources in place, including land.

Operator  

Next question is from the line of Ragini Pande from Elara Capital.

Unknown Analyst  

Sir, what were your PLF incentives in this quarter and the last year, if you can share?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

You talk about incentive of PLF?

Unknown Analyst  

Yes, yes.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No, I didn't hear you. Is it plant load factor or incentive, what are what was the query?

Unknown Analyst  

Sir, plant load factor based incentives, if you can share?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Okay. Can I paraphrase your question? You want to know what is your -- what is our incentive we have gained? Or you are wanting a physical parameter of your plant load factor?

Unknown Analyst  

No, no, sir, the PLF based incentives, incentive income because your PLF was.... Yes.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Okay. Now it is clear. See 9 months, we have INR 762 crores of incentive. We did a INR 255 crores during the Q3, taking the tally to INR 762 crores. And as I answered already, we expect a similar kind of a figure for Q4 also.

Unknown Analyst  

Okay. Next one is, sir, what is the income from the late payment surcharge regulation? I mean how has the receivables improved after the implementation of the LPSC rules?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, our late payment surcharge figure stood at INR 177 crores till H1, half year financial, current financial. For the Q3, it is INR 71 crores. So for 9 months it is INR 248 crores.

Now with the implementation of the LPSC rules, as you rightly said, the surcharge income is not by design, it is by default in the sense that higher surcharge figures beyond the point should be a cause for worry because then the debtors control -- it talks about a higher debtor figure.

So with the LPSC framework in place, the payment trend has been quite good. So that is the reason, generally in the sector as a whole for all the generators, if you look at the figure of income from late payments surcharge, it is dwindling. So to give you an example, financial year '19-'20, we had a figure of INR 1,240 crores earnings from -- for 9 months. And comparing 9 months, it was INR 1,240 crores for financial year '20-'21, it was INR 1,695 crores, and then it started going down, INR 642 crores, INR 459 crores, INR 186 crores last year, and now it is INR 248 crores. So it is a sign of a better collection efficiency.

Operator  

[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of Mohit Pandey from Macquarie Capital.

Mohit Pandey   Macquarie Research

Firstly, if you could clarify the 7.2 gigawatts of thermal capacity that is to be tendered out by FY '27, that will be predominantly on brownfield mode or greenfield also?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No. As I mentioned to you, NTPC is going predominantly for brownfield only, I would say, entirely for brownfield. We haven't gone in for any thermal in recent period, which is a greenfield. So your questions stand answered, that yes, it is brownfield only.

Mohit Pandey   Macquarie Research

Okay. Okay. Yes. So the question pertained to the 7.2 gigawatts that is yet to be tendered, but that clarifies it.

Sir, secondly, with regards to FGDs, while you mentioned the gigawatt under construction, if you could help with what kind of commissioning in rupees growth terms is expected over FY '26 and '27?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, we have broadly 2 set of FGDs. One is what we are implementing along with the projects. This the project itself. The one which is done on that FGD -- which is being implemented separately for the existing commission plans. Now the entire megawatt capacity of the SGD existing would be 59,880 megawatts, which would constitute roughly an expenditure of INR 32,800 crores. Now out of place, 12,120 megawatts of capacity equivalent of FGD has already been under commercial operation as of 31st December 2024, which would be INR 5,368 crores of approved corresponding costs.

Now if you look at the upcoming COD status for this additional FDGs, 4,360 megawatts, we are expecting during the balance part of the current year. For financial year '26, it would be 13,310 megawatts. For financial year '27, it would be 14,110-megawatts. And financial year '28, it would be 15,980 megawatts. So that totals up to 59,880 megawatts. And if you talk about the corresponding cost of this, I'm mentioning only the approved cost, not the completed cost. It could differ slightly. For financial year balance, it would be INR 2,626 crores. Next year, it would be INR 7,645 crores. Financial year '27, it would be INR 8,105 crores, financial year '28 it would be INR 9,030 crores. These are tentative figures as per the Schedule of Commissioning. Thank you.

Mohit Pandey   Macquarie Research

And sir, last question is on fixed cost under recovery, while we are seeing very good progress in this quarter. What will drive further progress as you indicated that by the end of the year, you plan to get it down to INR 250 crores, INR 300 crores. That would be my last question, sir.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, this is based on -- our optimism is based on not near optimism, it is based on the ground conditions. And Q4 is something where most of our units are up and running. And so this is the period where you have the least planned outages. So taking into account that we are doing this.

Operator  

Next question is from the line of Aniket Mittal from SBI Mutual Fund.

Aniket Mittal  

My first question was on NEEPCO and THDC. I remember earlier, you highlighted about 12 gigawatt of additional hydro-based capacity that you want to add over there. Can you give some details on when can we expect awarding for those happen and which projects are in advanced stages?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No, no. We didn't -- I didn't mention anything in terms of a fresh award for NEEPCO and THDC. I had given only COD guidance for FY '25 and beyond based on already awarded projects.

Aniket Mittal  

Are the plans to undertake new projects within that on the hydro side?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

I suppose there are some distant projects, which are under feasibility study, but I can't say anything very categorically at this stage because I don't have the figures right before me right now.

Aniket Mittal  

Okay. Just one last book keeping question. On the consolidated financials, the other income has gone down very drastically for the quarter on a Y-o-Y basis. What is leading to that decline?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Let me...

Aniket Mittal  

That's roughly a 30% fall in the other region and Y-o-Y.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Yes, I can -- I have this figure before me. The other income was INR 754.27 crores, and now it is INR 554 (sic) [ 545 ] crores. So it's a drop by INR 209 crores. So the change is contributed by NTPC INR 118 crores, NGEL INR 65.86 crores. This is because of increase in the interest from bank deposits. RGPPL varies at INR 30 crores. So this is the broad breakup for this. And this is -- this stands eliminated by -- because the upsides stands eliminated by INR 424.71 crores of higher dividends from JVs and subsidiaries. So that brings to INR 209 crores.

Operator  

We'll take our next question from the line of Nikhil Nigania from Bernstein.

Nikhil Nigania   Sanford C. Bernstein & Co.

My first question is on the Bangladesh plant. If you get the joint venture plant, if you could give some update on what is happening there? What is the status of the plant, any issues you are facing there on that plant?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Yes, I would request Director of Operation; Mr. Ravindra Kumar, who is incidentally on the Board of the company as the Chairman to take on this question.

Ravindra Kumar   Director of Operations & Director

Both plants of the Bangladesh we have officially commissioned and its operating. Right now, because of the coal and dollar prices, coal is not available so it is under shutdown. Whenever the coal will be available and the dollar will be available, we will open the plant.

Operator  

I'm sorry to interrupt, sir, can you come to the microphone, please?

Ravindra Kumar   Director of Operations & Director

Both Bangladesh plant is commissioned and it was running, but now it is under shutdown because for want of coal. And coal is expected -- temporarily -- and coal is expected to be arriving very soon, so we will start the plant again as per the grid requirement there.

Nikhil Nigania   Sanford C. Bernstein & Co.

Got it. And could you give some color on how much investment we have made in terms of equity into that plant?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

INR 1,324 crores, we have already invested there and equity provided.

Nikhil Nigania   Sanford C. Bernstein & Co.

Got it. One last question on -- there was this article that there were issues with BHEL, which were leading to delays in commissioning of plants and a meeting was held. If you could share some color if there has been any progress or is there a likelihood of further delays in commissioning of the pipeline plants like Patratu, Khurja, et cetera.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Director Projects will take on this question, Shanmugha Sundaram.

K. Sundaram   Director of Projects & Executive Director

Actually, there was a meeting for the way forward of BHEL was being conducted. Now BHEL is able to take care of this vendor's cash flows. Earlier, even vendor cash flow was an issue. They are improving on all fronts. You must be knowing Khurja Unit 1 has been commissioned. Today night it will be declared a commercial operation. So that seems to be a positive approach from BHEL, and we have to see how it moves. We are planning to commission Patratu Unit 1 in this quarter and North Karanpura Unit 3 also in this quarter, both are BHEL supplies.

Operator  

Our next question is from the line of from Vishal Periwal from Antique Stock Broking.

Vishal Periwal   Antique Stockbroking

Two questions from me. One on NGEL, you did mention like there could be some bit of inorganic growth.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

At this moment, you can assume that all this put together would be above 3 gigawatt.

Vishal Periwal   Antique Stockbroking

Okay. But this is part of our -- the target that we are talking about?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

For the current financial year, since it's only 2 months down, so I would give you a figure as a guidance that you take a figure of 3 gigawatt rather than asking for a split up in very specific terms.

Vishal Periwal   Antique Stockbroking

Okay. Got it, sir. And then second, for this Rajasthan Vidyut, the 50-50 JV CapEx that we have done, for our operational assets, so does this involve any investments or will this be part of our control capacity or is this just an O&M that we are doing?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

See, there is -- this is a thermal plant of 2,320 megawatts operational. And there is always a hope for expansion depending on the availability of land and several other inputs. But right now, it will be a 2,320 megawatts of operational assets only.

Vishal Periwal   Antique Stockbroking

Okay. So I mean, does this involve like any investments for this or it will be only for the incremental CapEx that we are doing that will envisage investment?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No, it is for the existing capacity. It is for the existing capacity of the running plant.

Operator  

We'll take our next question from the line of Sumit Kishore from Axis Capital.

Sumit Kishore   Axis Capital Limited

My question is in relation to the multiple [Technical Difficulty] can outline what kind of investments or capacity additions are envisaged in these JVs of NGEL?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

I would put it this way that there is planned capacity addition that we have given you guidance in terms of 5 gigawatt, 8 gigawatt and an average of 8 gigawatt, 7 gigawatt to 8 gigawatt. Now these are facilitators. This need not be looked at an incremental capacity over and above what we are stating, but these are the aid towards that. These are the avenues for bringing capacity additions. And these are recently formed joint ventures, which would involve that identification of suitable land, which the respective state government would be bringing to the table and with their own equity participation. So I won't be able to say in concrete terms in terms of the time lines for this, but definitely, all this would become very handy for our targeted capacity of 60 gigawatts by 2032.

Sumit Kishore   Axis Capital Limited

Okay. Just to understand this, the 3 gigawatt, 5 gigawatt, 8 gigawatt guidance for NGEL is at a consolidated level, including all JVs and potential inorganic growth that you might do, will also go towards meeting this target?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

I would say that going ahead, the most of the expansion would be from NGEL, a chunk of that, I would say. But for the current year, you can take us up for the group. But going ahead, more and more capacity additions would be from the NGEL. But I don't rule out there would be some capacity additions from our subsidiaries, hydro subsidiaries also. So some could be -- a small capacity addition can come from NTPC also wherever there is a feasibility in proximity to our existing plants. But the substantial part would, in the future, next 2, 3 years will come from NGEL.

Sumit Kishore   Axis Capital Limited

And in reply to the previous participant, we just want to be very sure. So Chhabra project, are you acquiring the 50% stake in that project? And what is the consideration?

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

No. Consideration is something which I will not be sharing at this moment. It is subject to price discovery, modalities and other things. But I will share with you that it is 50%, and our capacity is 2,320 megawatt.

Sumit Kishore   Axis Capital Limited

Okay. This you had not included in your overall capacity addition for NTPC through FY '27 that you had mentioned earlier. This will be over and above.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

Whatever is the capacity addition I shared is about the projects under implementation. This would be over and above that.

Operator  

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll take that as the last question for today. I now hand the conference over to management for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Jaikumar Srinivasan   CFO, Director of Finance & Director

I, along with my colleague Directors here and on behalf of the NTPC NGEL would like to thank all the participants for raising their queries, very pertinent queries and giving us an opportunity to share our thoughts as well as numbers for your perspective guessing. Thanks a lot.

Operator  

Thank you. On behalf of IIFL Capital Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect.